The December 2013 AMC agenda is online. Go peruse it (http://www.us.mensa.org/AML/?LinkServID=ECB6C2BD-E35E-D520-7FF5145152348936&type=mrep&name=2013-12-07\Agenda\2013-12-07Agenda.pdf) so that you have the proper context for my comments on several of the items, below. H6 is likely the most controversial item (replacing the weapons policy with a gun ban at national-level events), with H7 (hired security guards) a close second.
Make sure you send your comments about the agenda items at least to your RVC. Consider sending them to more members of the AMC than that. Regardless of whether your views line up with mine or are a complete 180 to them, you should make your views known.
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F6 should be amended so that it is
clear that it references a current Mensa member who gives a program
at an Annual Gathering “on a day they will be attending any portion
of the Annual Gathering outside of their own presentation”. After
all, it makes no sense at all to charge a Mensa member to give a
program if they plan on doing nothing more at the AG than give that
program.
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H3 should be changed so that it is the
Finance and Audit Committee that gives final approval to the
registration rates for Annual Gatherings; it should be the AG
Committee that proposes the budget. If there is conflict between what
the AG Committee proposes and what the Finance and Audit Committee is
willing to approve, then the two committees should work together to
come to a mutually acceptable agreement. AGs are not cookie-cutter
events. Rather, in addition to the standard/stock items that all AGs
have, there are many things which add that local “flavor” or
imprint from the committee members. There is no way that the Finance
and Audit Committee can foresee what the AG Committee wants to do.
Nor should the AG Committee be prevented from budgeting something for
the AG because the Finance and Audit Committee didn't (and couldn't)
foresee what might be planned.
[Update 11/17: Based on input prompted by this letter sent to the AMC and subsequent conversation, the motion on the agenda will be amended/updated to add a clause at the end of the motion indicating that the registration rates should be "based on a budget developed by the AG Chair(s)."]
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H5 – Rather than continually dip into
the Life Member fund each year, how about doing what people have been
asking for for years: have a rolling membership year. This would be
the single biggest action that could be taken to help even out cash
flow, both nationally and at the local level. There won't be a single
huge (~20%) drop in membership numbers (and commensurate funding)
every April, and there wouldn't be this long trough before a single
spike in late March due to an auto-renewal system.
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H6 – Approving ANY weapons ban
(whether broad like ASIE 2013-037 or specific to guns like this
proposal) is something that the AMC should not be involved in doing.
First of all, any person who is
committing a crime (i.e., violating local, state, and/or federal law)
should be arrested and charged with said crime. There is no reason
why AMC should get involved with putting in policies that relate to
any criminal behavior.
Secondly, there is no meaningful
enforcement mechanism of such a ban. If someone concealed carries a
gun onto the premises, thereby violating such a ban, there is no way
for anyone to know until and unless that person decides to display or
brandish their gun. And, if and when such person would take that
action, in the vast majority of jurisdictions, such action would be
criminal, which brings us back to the first point.
Thirdly, by imposing such a ban, the
AMC only heaps on liability rather than helping to avoid it. By
banning guns, AMC then is put in the position of making sure that
they have taken all reasonable, necessary steps to protect the
attendees. If you don't have a robust enforcement/security policy put
in place, any harm that befalls an attendee because of someone
violating the ban but your not adequately policing it, that attendee
has cause to sue AML, in addition to whatever action they would take
against the offending individual.
Rather than banning guns, the AMC has
two realistic choices in terms of diffusing liability: 1) enact a
policy that states that it is expected that all attendees at the
events in question will comply with all local, state, and federal
laws regarding guns as well as the venue's policies (if any)
regarding guns, or 2) rescind any and all weapons or gun bans and be
completely silent on the issue. There is nothing in the bylaws,
ASIEs, or any other communication which officially permits and/or
endorses the carrying or use of guns (or other weapons) at
national-level events.
Furthermore, why should repeated
violations of this particular policy be deemed acts inimical to
Mensa. In jurisdictions where the carrying of the gun is permitted,
how can Mensa possibly take the position that someone can face
sanctions (possibly as severe as expulsion) for doing something that
is totally legal? That is untenable.
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[Update 11/19: The below commentary on H7 is now moot, as Marc Lederman (who was the initial mover of the motion) has withdrawn his motion from the agenda.]
H7 – While we certainly don't want
members getting involved with having to police a weapons/gun policy,
this motion says nothing of HOW such security officer(s) would
enforce such a weapons/gun ban.
As
mentioned in H6, there are public rooms for the following functions
at AGs: games, speakers, hospitality, meals,
business meetings, debates, tournaments, dances, testing, and
meet-and-greets. (Omitted from that list are the rooms for the Young
Mensans, Tweens, and TeenSIG. While not generally public, even to the
majority of attendees, these are also rooms that would be affected by
such a ban. And some would say they are the most vulnerable, too.)
So, figuring a conservative estimate of 1 room for games, 6 for
speakers, 1 for hospitality, 1 for meal plan meals, 1 for business
meetings, 4 for debates, 1 for tournaments, 1 for dances, 1 for
testing, and 3 for meet-and-greets, as well as one each for the Yms,
Tweens, and Teens, that brings us to a minimum of 23 rooms that would
need to be “policed”.
Clearly,
not all of these rooms are occupied at all times during an AG, so
figure (conservatively) that all rooms are open for 12 hours per day
except for hospitality and games which are open 24/7. This brings us
to a total of approximately 452 room-hours, assuming only one
security officer within each room. At $40 - $50 per hour, as provided
in the explanation, this is an additional cost of approximately
$18,000 - $22,500. This will raise registration costs anywhere from
$9 - $16 per person (likely more, given conservative estimates being
used) specifically to cover this cost alone.
Cost
aside, unless there is a mechanism in place for HOW a gun ban will be
enforced, all that hiring security guards will do is throw away money
for these people to stand and watch us cavort. If they are not
routinely doing some semblance of a search on each and every person
that comes into each and every public room which the AG has in use,
then there is no actual enforcement being done.
In
order to search people, there are a few methods: 1) Ask anyone will
overly concealing clothing (such as a jacket, sweatshirt, scarf,
hat/cap) to open up/remove said article to verify that no contraband
gun is being carried; 2) Ask anyone carrying any opaque bag or other
article large enough to conceal a gun to open it up and permit the
guard to “paw around” in it as necessary to satisfy the guard
that there is no contraband gun being carried; 3) Install and man
metal detectors and/or backscatter machines at the entrance to areas
small enough where people can't circumvent them by going in a
different entrance to that larger space. While this would surely be
fewer in number than the number of public rooms, it would certainly
be more than just one or two.
After
you deal with the matter of how this will be enforced, then comes the
matter of AML liability creeping in again. As has been previously
observed, if someone violates the gun ban and harms another in the
process of doing so, AML has the following liability issues: 1) the
injured attendee, 2) the security officer who may be injured in the
process, and 3) the hotel, for any damages to the hotel or its
personnel that are incurred because of the ineffective enforcement of
the policy.
While
some of the above points may appear to be hyperbole, rest assured
that with a dminished number of rooms being “policed” and with
little to no methods put in place to actively determine if the policy
is being violated, AML's liability continues to rise.
Recognize
the serious flaws in these motions, vote against all of the
weapons/gun policy-related items on this agenda, and repeal/rescind
the weapons poloicy that you put in place during the previous AMC
meeting. Admit that you made a mistake, correct it, and move on to
items that will actually be beneficial to AML.
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While
it doesn't look like there's anything objectionable in H8 itself, why
is it that this is being placed on the agenda without so much as a
“by-your-leave” mention within the Bylaws Committee?
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Why
is H9, the motion regarding member participation/input during the AMC
meeting, the last motion
on the agenda? Talk about a predisposition to vote against a motion.
Given the goals of this motion, I would urge not only that it be
approved, but that it be put first within this section of non-consent
agenda items. In the off-chance that this passes, what better ways of
being able to manifest its utility than during the discussions
surrounding the various gun ban-related motions? It is obviously true
that it is easier for someone on the “outside” of a discussion to
pick up on points that are overlooked by those people who are in the
thick of a potentially heated discussion. Clearly there are times
when such observations by another party can bring clarity to an
otherwise murky or controversial course of action, and provide an
unexpected resolution to the situation at hand. Will this always
be the case? Likely not. But if we can foster a society that actively
involves the members and considers their counsel, even in an
unofficial capacity, what better way to manifest our mythical “round
table society” that is so often and loftily mentioned, but so
infrequently realized?
While
permitting Comments from the Audience before the section of motions
is begun and at the end of the agenda is nice, it is insufficient for
pointing out something that only becomes clear even to the observer
during the actual discussion of the particular motion on the table.
For example, while I would like to think that I raised all the
pertinent points related to the gun ban-related motions in my
commentary above, I suspect that one or more things have been
overlooked. It's entirely possible that a member attending the AMC
meeting will actually realize a new, pertinent angle on the
situation. To miss out on that input during the discussion because of
formality, tradition, or whatever else might get in the way is to do
AML a disservice.
Speaking as a former security guard and security manager, for the sake of the organization I urge Mensa to not even consider using security guards to enforce a weapons policy or any other policy. Every time a security guard lays hands on a person or their effects they open themselves and whoever hired them to liability, for everything ranging from petty theft to sexual assault. It is also significant that we have a lot of members who are in a delicate psychological state at our gatherings, and involuntary touching or inspections particularly by outsiders are likely to cause meltdowns and unpleasant scenes.
ReplyDeleteUnfortunately this advice is likely to fall on deaf ears due to the know-it-all character of our management, and worse yet is that if they do run into trouble with this the price is going to be paid by the membership at large and not the people who made this decision.
Thank you for calling our attention to these agenda items.
ReplyDeleteRegarding H.6, I feel strongly that existing laws (and constitutional rights) are sufficient and that a ban on firearms is a bad idea. People attending events in a particular U.S. state need to follow the laws of that state as well as federal law. If, as you suggest, the notion of being law-abiding needs to be spelled out somewhere, fine, but even that step doesn't seem necessary.
Second, I am concerned about the slippery slope. It is curious that only firearms are mentioned in the proposal. If someone brings along some form of blade weapon, or brandishes a hatpin, will those be added to the bylaws later? Further, does Mensa plan on officially listing all the things we cannot do, from capital crimes to littering, or just a few highlights, such as the proposed firearms ban? By what criteria are crimes (or "crimes" if they are not actually illegal in a given jurisdiction) or forbidden objects listed or not listed in the bylaws?
The financial impact of the firearms ban is listed as “None,” as if such a ban exists in a vacuum. In reality, it does necessitate H.7 or a similar enforcement provision. The cost of enforcement and the considerable liability issues are likely to be the most persuasive arguments against H.6 and H.7 for our leaders or their legal advisors.
Regarding H.7, I am opposed to hiring rent-a-cops for events and to the TSA-style searches of my person and belongings that would be necessary to enforce a firearms ban. The phrase “paid professional uniformed security” comes up three times in this section of the agenda, as if “professional” or “paid professional” implies impressive qualifications on the part of those hired. However, anyone paid to wear a uniform and be a security guard is a “paid professional uniformed security.” Will there be further provisions for background checks and required qualifications for these paid professional uniformed security officials?
(Regarding your exhaustive list of rooms and calculations of room-hours and such, I'm puzzled as to why, if we did hire guards, one would need to be posted at every room. Isn't controlling the entrances enough?)
"I'm puzzled as to why, if we did hire guards, one would need to be posted at every room. Isn't controlling the entrances enough?"
ReplyDeleteIt comes down to lawyers. Heaven forbid that a mass shooting happen at a national MENSA event, but if it did happen, the lawyers for the injured and families of the killed would push the issue of the minimal security. "They ONLY had one guard. AND he was UNARMED!!!"
The fewer the guards, the higher likelihood of losing the law suit.
The precedent is the Aurora, CO, movie theater shooting. They had a policy and a sign but no security and no prevention plan. The lawsuit was based on the implied security giving a false sense of security.
The theater settled. So will MENSA.
Here is a question that no one is asking. If sued, and we lose, are the members on the hook for a portion of the legal settlement? Can every member afford to pitch in a few hundred bucks to pay off the lawyers (and victims)?
JJ Swiontek
Certified NRA Instructor
swiontek3625@yahoo.com
Denver, CO
JJ, have you ever attended an AG? In recent years, we're lucky if we manage to contain them in a single large hotel. Often times, we hold them in multiple buildings, even though a majority of the functions are typically in one main hotel.
DeleteThe reason why I was talking about having such a guard at every room, or at least at chokepoints inside of which are several rooms, is because of just how spread out everything is. There is no AG I've been to in the past 14 years (I've been to 13) where you have only one entrance to the entirety of the venue. The more ways in there are, the more coverage there needs to be if the attempted enforcement is to be realistically effective.
"Member", controlling the entrances may be enough *for those rooms that do not have access via the service corridor*. Many rooms, especially the large ones, do... and those are exactly the ones that a nutcase looking to rack up a large body count would hit first. For those, we would also need guards at each and every entrance to the whole hotel, including loading docks.
ReplyDeleteThe following is from Mike B, from a post of his on MWM's yahoogroup, littlem.
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[Jared] raises many good points, but missed two: membership losses and
attendance reductions at events covered by the anti-weapon rules.
Membership losses start with me if they enact such stupid rulings. If
Mensa starts doing stupid things like this, it loses its one claim to
fame: being for smart people. I would also consider it insulting that
the AMC would think that I'm stupid enough to think it was a good idea
(you can't increase your safety by making yourself more
helpless...that's just idiocy).
Attendance reductions will include those with or without carry permits
who aren't willing to give up their rights (or safety), those who object
to being searched for whatever reason, those who object to increased
hassle for no good reason, those who object to being required to pay for
things they neither want nor need, and those who are simply scared off
by the entire issue (if it's not dangerous to be there, why are there
security guards everywhere? There must have been "incidents" in the
past to cause this level of paranoia, and maybe they could happen again?
Best stay away...). The insult thing is another reason...having
guards ask people with obvious concealing clothing or belongings like
coats, hats, and purses, but not others with equally useful concealing
clothing and belongings, such as pants, dresses, boots, wheelchairs,
canes, crutches, suitcases, and computers, in the name of "banning
weapons" assumes that I'm stupid enough to think that that is the
reason, or that the methods chosen will be effective....that "security
theater" will fool me into thinking the AMC knows what it is doing, when
it clearly does not.
I'm not inclined to attend events, or to continue membership, in an
organization that implies that I'm stupid or ignorant, that tries to
deny me basic rights, that endangers me in the name of political
correctness, or that wastes my money on such things.
I STRONGLY suggest that those rules NOT be adopted...nor any like them.
Jared's objections, and mine, are the reason.
-- Mike B.